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Insider Upgrade issues – What’s going on, Insider Team?

Over the past few months, Windows Insider Fast Ring upgrades have been almost exclusively bug fixes. Thus, it would have been easy to deliver them through cumulative updates instead of full feature upgrades. That’s because the 20H1 Insider builds have contained practically no new features.

What makes this problematic is that at the same time, the upgrade delivery system has started to fail for quite a number of users. These days, the upgrade process takes longer and longer. For some, Windows Update goes through the “Getting things ready – Downloading – Installing” cycle several times, finally ending in a boot loop. The culmination point now is the 0xc1900101 bug. To this frustrating waste of time, the Insider Team, as is its habit, tries to play down the impact by claiming that only a “limited number of Insiders attempting to install may experience install failures with error code c1900101 due to a compatibility bug with a storage driver on their device” (quote from build 18936 release notes). Reports from the field appear to indicate something more widespread and serious is going on.

Here are some quotes from various forums, posted within hours of the release of build 18941 yesterday:

Caught in a loop between getting things ready and installing.

Same here — an hour in and it hasn’t even rebooted yet.

60 minutes to desktop but spent 25 minutes in a loop.

Wow! It took FOREVER to get past the “Getting things ready” stage. I had issues getting WU past the 70% stage of “Getting things ready”, took several tries before things actually continued beyond that point.

Builds are getting slower. 85 mins to the desktop.

1st attempt ended in BSOD and failed after prompting to restart. Still stuck on 18932. 2nd attempt – upgrade from 18941 ISO file failed with same BSOD as well.

What’s the viability of just doing a patch instead a doing a full download/getting things ready/install etc.? I am “looping” at the present.

After 1st restart it reverted back to previous build. 2.5 hrs wasted!

Try number two had the same results as the first. It stuck at 73% then went to a black screen. I had to hold the power button to restart the computer.

Right at 4 hrs total, I have 18941 installed.

Goin on 2 hours, “installing – 64%”.

Once again reverted to previous….really pissed off with MS consistently releasing crap.

I follow most major Windows forums and sites in Finnish, Swedish and German, in addition to English. I see reports of those same issues everywhere, regardless of country and language.

What’s the point in delivering a full feature upgrade only for bug fixes? Especially as the team knows that many Insiders won’t upgrade successfully anyway? My firm belief is that the whole UUP (Unified Upgrade Platform) upgrade method is broken, and should be fixed. Microsoft: Please give us bug fixes in cumulative updates, when you know that the feature upgrade does not work for many Insiders.

Build 18941 release notes yesterday also included something odd, and shows how the Insider Team often acts first and thinks only later. Here’s a screenshot from a post of mine yesterday on Ten Forums:

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The link in question took those who have no access to another Windows computer to this page on Microsoft Answers. I mean, Insider team advises those who cannot boot their only  computer to download a Windows 10 ISO and make a bootable USB flash drive. What kind of advice is that?

Anyway, a short time after I posted this observation, the sentence highlighted in the screenshot above, including the link, was removed from the official release notes. I am not saying it was removed because of my post. Indeed, it might also be that some member of the team finally realized how stupid that was.

For now, I am still stuck on build 18932. Hopefully, this is not the last Insider build I will be able to install. Technical difficulties aside, I am still a keen Insider and Windows fan!


Author: Kari Finn

A former Windows Insider MVP, Kari started in computing in the mid 80’s writing code for VAX / VMS systems. Since then, he’s worked in a variety of IT positions. He specializes in Windows image capture, customization, repair and deployment as well as Hyper-V virtualization. Kari is a proud Team Member at number #1 Windows site TenForums.com.

One Response “Insider Upgrade issues – What’s going on, Insider Team?”

  1. CountMike
    July 19, 2019 at 13:15

    Looks like they are experimenting with some kind of targeted build distribution. Last 2 or 3 builds didn’t present me any problem during installation while few before these did double or even triple takes just to install.
    Other tings that hit some and some not, like miserable graphic performance for instance, makes you wonder what caused it as it was expressly fixed but never forewarned about it.

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